Comments on: Loving California http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:28:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Dave http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2320 Dave Sun, 25 May 2008 10:44:04 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2320 SF yes but not LA. SF yes but not LA.

]]> By: libhomo http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2290 libhomo Sat, 24 May 2008 04:23:34 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2290 I see marriage as a failed and oppressive hetero institution that is senseless for queers to mimic. Nothing has done more to destroy hetero love than the institution of marriage. I see marriage as a failed and oppressive hetero institution that is senseless for queers to mimic. Nothing has done more to destroy hetero love than the institution of marriage.

]]> By: QuoterGal http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2283 QuoterGal Fri, 23 May 2008 19:53:15 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2283 I have lived in three states in my life, and two of them - my post-college state of Massachusetts and now my current state of California - allow gay marriage. I am thrilled for those gay couples that have wanted to marry and have been denied that right. It is a good time to be a Californian. (And I'm confused by the above comment - wouldn't a gay California marriage be recognized in Massachusetts as the law stands? If not, it seems totally counter-intuitive that a state that permits gay marriage wouldn't recognize another state's married gay couple as such. However, the law is frequently counter-intuitive, and an ass as well, so I guess it's possible...) In the broadest sense, I don't think the government should be in the marriage business, either - I am part of a CA heterosexual couple that has chosen not to get married, since we do not recognize the the need to have the state validate our union. Though this has led to some tedious legal filings and paperwork, it remains significant to us to repudiate governmental sanction of our (15-year) relationship. However, I look on gay marriage a little bit like I view gays in the military - I wouldn't want to be in the armed forces for anything you could give me, but I will heartily work for the rights of gays to be out and in the services. It ain't my choice, but it should be able to be your choice. I have lived in three states in my life, and two of them - my post-college state of Massachusetts and now my current state of California - allow gay marriage. I am thrilled for those gay couples that have wanted to marry and have been denied that right. It is a good time to be a Californian. (And I’m confused by the above comment - wouldn’t a gay California marriage be recognized in Massachusetts as the law stands? If not, it seems totally counter-intuitive that a state that permits gay marriage wouldn’t recognize another state’s married gay couple as such. However, the law is frequently counter-intuitive, and an ass as well, so I guess it’s possible…)

In the broadest sense, I don’t think the government should be in the marriage business, either - I am part of a CA heterosexual couple that has chosen not to get married, since we do not recognize the the need to have the state validate our union. Though this has led to some tedious legal filings and paperwork, it remains significant to us to repudiate governmental sanction of our (15-year) relationship.

However, I look on gay marriage a little bit like I view gays in the military - I wouldn’t want to be in the armed forces for anything you could give me, but I will heartily work for the rights of gays to be out and in the services. It ain’t my choice, but it should be able to be your choice.

]]> By: Skyler http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2264 Skyler Thu, 22 May 2008 09:28:06 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2264 This is an awesome victory for the LGBTQ communities everywhere. Unfortunately California is really expensive to live ($800-900 minimum for a studio apartment). And by the way, if you get married in California under current laws your marriage is valid in New Mexico, New York, and Rhode Island. This is an awesome victory for the LGBTQ communities everywhere.

Unfortunately California is really expensive to live ($800-900 minimum for a studio apartment). And by the way, if you get married in California under current laws your marriage is valid in New Mexico, New York, and Rhode Island.

]]> By: Silenus http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2247 Silenus Tue, 20 May 2008 05:06:38 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2247 I have to admit to having very mixed feeling about this "triumph." I used to joke that gay marriage wouldn't help my boy friend and me because even if it was legal, our wives wouldn't let us. I look at the gay marriage controversy as the Emperor's New Marriage. Neither side is right. Of course I want anyone who wants to be a married couple, gay or straight to get equal rights. But what about singles and us polyamorous folks? We don't get equal rights, and gay marriage makes that even harder. It is the tyranny of special rights for couples. The real solution to this is to get the government out of the marriage business, give it back to religions, and give every individual a set of personal rights that they can do with as they see fit. Si I have to admit to having very mixed feeling about this “triumph.” I used to joke that gay marriage wouldn’t help my boy friend and me because even if it was legal, our wives wouldn’t let us.

I look at the gay marriage controversy as the Emperor’s New Marriage. Neither side is right. Of course I want anyone who wants to be a married couple, gay or straight to get equal rights. But what about singles and us polyamorous folks? We don’t get equal rights, and gay marriage makes that even harder. It is the tyranny of special rights for couples.

The real solution to this is to get the government out of the marriage business, give it back to religions, and give every individual a set of personal rights that they can do with as they see fit.

Si

]]> By: Lori T http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2246 Lori T Tue, 20 May 2008 04:17:25 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2246 I don't have the $$ to relocate to SF, but I visit there often. The most beautiful, artistic, fun experiences happen to me there. For example, I love to photograph street art, and was taking some shots up near Polk street. Don't know what it is about the camera but I had two transexual ladies jump into my shots and start posing. I told them they were beautiful art as well. Any way here is my question....If two gay individuals marry in CA and move to another state, is it recognized? I don’t have the $$ to relocate to SF, but I visit there often.
The most beautiful, artistic, fun experiences happen to me there.
For example, I love to photograph street art, and was taking some shots up near Polk street.
Don’t know what it is about the camera but I had two transexual ladies jump into my shots and start posing. I told them they were beautiful art as well.

Any way here is my question….If two gay individuals marry in CA and move to another state, is it recognized?

]]> By: YvesPaul http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2241 YvesPaul Mon, 19 May 2008 18:30:34 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2241 I would love to move to the SF bay. It's a dream of mine, and after gay marriage is legal it just become so much more attractive. I would love to move to the SF bay. It’s a dream of mine, and after gay marriage is legal it just become so much more attractive.

]]> By: Ryan Kerian http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2239 Ryan Kerian Mon, 19 May 2008 17:53:16 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/05/19/loving-california.html#comment-2239 I loved your posting. I just relocated to San Francisco and the decision and the love in the Castro that night really moved me. There are two videos of the celebration that night on YouTube that capture the spirit and emotions of the evening. I wanted to suggest them (and candidly admit that the second one is mine): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34G8Mp9Yb2w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFGIoPFvRo You are wonderful, hysterical and beautiful all at the same time. Keep on rocking, Ryan I loved your posting. I just relocated to San Francisco and the decision and the love in the Castro that night really moved me. There are two videos of the celebration that night on YouTube that capture the spirit and emotions of the evening. I wanted to suggest them (and candidly admit that the second one is mine):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34G8Mp9Yb2w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFGIoPFvRo

You are wonderful, hysterical and beautiful all at the same time.

Keep on rocking,

Ryan

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