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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading over all of this, I am reaffirmed of the fact that liberal lefties are hardwired to insert digs at \whites\, \white society\, and especially \white males\ where-ever and whenever possible, even if for no earthly reason. How else can someone arrive at the conclusion that the hostility of minority groups toward gays is somehow explainable by antagonism from gay white males? Perhaps all the queer skinheads - supposedly a \huge problem\ in California - turned up on polling day to hold guns to the heads of minority voters in a ploy to shitcan prob 8 and undermine minority-gay relations all at once.

I realize that in chastising \white upper-middle class heterosexuals in California\, as one poster did, he is merely executing his prime directive; nevertheless it wouldn&#039;t hurt to remind everyone of the fact that prop 8 was passed BECAUSE OF the strong support from minorities, especially blacks and hispanics, and that \white upper-middle class heterosexuals in California\ are, in fact, mostly pro-gay latte-drinking yuppies who formed the political backbone of prop 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading over all of this, I am reaffirmed of the fact that liberal lefties are hardwired to insert digs at \whites\, \white society\, and especially \white males\ where-ever and whenever possible, even if for no earthly reason. How else can someone arrive at the conclusion that the hostility of minority groups toward gays is somehow explainable by antagonism from gay white males? Perhaps all the queer skinheads &#8211; supposedly a \huge problem\ in California &#8211; turned up on polling day to hold guns to the heads of minority voters in a ploy to shitcan prob 8 and undermine minority-gay relations all at once.</p>
<p>I realize that in chastising \white upper-middle class heterosexuals in California\, as one poster did, he is merely executing his prime directive; nevertheless it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to remind everyone of the fact that prop 8 was passed BECAUSE OF the strong support from minorities, especially blacks and hispanics, and that \white upper-middle class heterosexuals in California\ are, in fact, mostly pro-gay latte-drinking yuppies who formed the political backbone of prop 8.</p>
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		<title>By: marcelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you guys still keep saying that an Obama victory is pro gay rights? I mean, he is a Christian. He believes in the bible, which states that if a man should lie with another man, he&#039;s blood shall be shed. 
How can you support a man who believes such silly nonsense? A man who supports a book that calls for the killing of Gay people. 

He is also pro armageddon. He is also anti womens rights. He is in fact, a pro violent man, because he is a man of the Bible, and the Bible preaches violence. 
Again, I repeat - He is a friggin Christian people! Wake the fuck up! 
Christians like Obama have waged a war against homosexuals and lesbians for several thousand years now. 

What, you like him, just because he&#039;s of colour? Have you heard of Evo Morales? He was elected several years ago... did you people go nuts over that victory?
So Cho did you forget what Martin Luther King said? &quot;regardless of his race or colour&quot; but this election was alll about voting for a black guy - it was all about colour. 
How short a memory we have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you guys still keep saying that an Obama victory is pro gay rights? I mean, he is a Christian. He believes in the bible, which states that if a man should lie with another man, he&#8217;s blood shall be shed.<br />
How can you support a man who believes such silly nonsense? A man who supports a book that calls for the killing of Gay people. </p>
<p>He is also pro armageddon. He is also anti womens rights. He is in fact, a pro violent man, because he is a man of the Bible, and the Bible preaches violence.<br />
Again, I repeat &#8211; He is a friggin Christian people! Wake the fuck up!<br />
Christians like Obama have waged a war against homosexuals and lesbians for several thousand years now. </p>
<p>What, you like him, just because he&#8217;s of colour? Have you heard of Evo Morales? He was elected several years ago&#8230; did you people go nuts over that victory?<br />
So Cho did you forget what Martin Luther King said? &#8220;regardless of his race or colour&#8221; but this election was alll about voting for a black guy &#8211; it was all about colour.<br />
How short a memory we have.</p>
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		<title>By: lady_cow</title>
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		<dc:creator>lady_cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: you say you had the &quot;good sense to support Hillary&quot;...why is that? I do not think Hillary was better than Obama on gay rights in general, and like Obama she supported civil unions but not gay marriage.  

D. Polar: as long as we&#039;re quoting African-American religious leaders, here&#039;s another one, this time from Obama&#039;s former pastor, Rev. Wright, from a sermon he gave in the 90&#039;s:

â€œI refuse to limit my God, to lock God into my cultural understandings because culture is fickle,â€ Wright said. â€œAnd culture is often wrong. Culture was wrong about slavery. Culture was wrong about women. Culture was wrong about Africans and Indians, and culture was wrong about Christ,â€ he said. â€œI have been the pariah among many of my clergy colleagues who somehow see me as defective or not quite saved because I wonâ€™t join them in their homophobic gay bashing and misquoting of scripture.â€

(quoted in the washingtonblade: 
http://www.washingtonblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=17266 )

My point is, please, please don&#039;t try to paint a picture of the entire Black community as homophobic.   The California NAACP opposed Prop 8, in fact.   So did the Greater Sacramento Urban League and several other minority and civil rights organizations:

http://www.noonprop8.com/about/who-opposes-prop-8

Let&#039;s not repay our African-American allies with racism or pretend they don&#039;t exist--if we do, it will only deepen the divide.  Read this article by Kathryn Kolbert; it makes a lot of good points:

http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2008/11/blaming_black_v.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: you say you had the &#8220;good sense to support Hillary&#8221;&#8230;why is that? I do not think Hillary was better than Obama on gay rights in general, and like Obama she supported civil unions but not gay marriage.  </p>
<p>D. Polar: as long as we&#8217;re quoting African-American religious leaders, here&#8217;s another one, this time from Obama&#8217;s former pastor, Rev. Wright, from a sermon he gave in the 90&#8217;s:</p>
<p>â€œI refuse to limit my God, to lock God into my cultural understandings because culture is fickle,â€ Wright said. â€œAnd culture is often wrong. Culture was wrong about slavery. Culture was wrong about women. Culture was wrong about Africans and Indians, and culture was wrong about Christ,â€ he said. â€œI have been the pariah among many of my clergy colleagues who somehow see me as defective or not quite saved because I wonâ€™t join them in their homophobic gay bashing and misquoting of scripture.â€</p>
<p>(quoted in the washingtonblade:<br />
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.washingtonblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=17266"  rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=17266</a> )</p>
<p>My point is, please, please don&#8217;t try to paint a picture of the entire Black community as homophobic.   The California NAACP opposed Prop 8, in fact.   So did the Greater Sacramento Urban League and several other minority and civil rights organizations:</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.noonprop8.com/about/who-opposes-prop-8"  rel="nofollow">http://www.noonprop8.com/about/who-opposes-prop-8</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not repay our African-American allies with racism or pretend they don&#8217;t exist&#8211;if we do, it will only deepen the divide.  Read this article by Kathryn Kolbert; it makes a lot of good points:</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2008/11/blaming_black_v.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2008/11/blaming_black_v.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ban Leow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ban Leow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there were more Margaret Cho&#039;s in this world! You are an inspiration, a breath of fresh political air and a heroine! Love you always, Ban</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there were more Margaret Cho&#8217;s in this world! You are an inspiration, a breath of fresh political air and a heroine! Love you always, Ban</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I offer my congratulations to all the Obama supporters. Your guy did it. I wish Barack the best of luck as president. However, I&#039;m reserving judgement until after he takes office and implements some policies. But even though he wasn&#039;t my first choice, I still figure he&#039;ll be better than Oldy McOlderton and Danielle Boone the wild frontierswoman.

AS I said in an earlier post, I was a Bob Barr supporter, and while I knew he wouldn&#039;t win, I thought he would fare better in the election than he did (he came in behind Nader, for God&#039;s sake.) Ah well, no sense grousing on defeat. I graciously accept that my candidate bit it hard, concede to the winners, and I offer this concession speech which I paraphrased from Penn Jillette:

&quot;You rat bastards don&#039;t deserve a Libertarian president. Cheat, cheat, never beat. Liar, liar, pants on fire. You should all choke on your own vomit... better yet, choke on someone else&#039;s vomit and die. I think you should be pigs cursed for a million years.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I offer my congratulations to all the Obama supporters. Your guy did it. I wish Barack the best of luck as president. However, I&#8217;m reserving judgement until after he takes office and implements some policies. But even though he wasn&#8217;t my first choice, I still figure he&#8217;ll be better than Oldy McOlderton and Danielle Boone the wild frontierswoman.</p>
<p>AS I said in an earlier post, I was a Bob Barr supporter, and while I knew he wouldn&#8217;t win, I thought he would fare better in the election than he did (he came in behind Nader, for God&#8217;s sake.) Ah well, no sense grousing on defeat. I graciously accept that my candidate bit it hard, concede to the winners, and I offer this concession speech which I paraphrased from Penn Jillette:</p>
<p>&#8220;You rat bastards don&#8217;t deserve a Libertarian president. Cheat, cheat, never beat. Liar, liar, pants on fire. You should all choke on your own vomit&#8230; better yet, choke on someone else&#8217;s vomit and die. I think you should be pigs cursed for a million years.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought the whole idea behind the founding of america was freedom. its a constitutional fucking RIGHT to freely choose...where i work, where i live, what i say, what i think,where i go to church...and i was under the impression (me being american and what not) that i also had a choice in who i love and marry. NONE of this should rightfully even BE up for discussion, much less a voting matter. we should ALL automatically be legally entitled to be married to whomever any of us should choose. i think all of the conservative closed minded assholes in this country need to shut the fuck up and stop worrying about who IM fucking and start worrying about things that are LEGITAMATE issues in this country like poverty and healthcare and so on and so forth...and another thing im sick and tired of these so called &quot;christian&quot; values that people are trying to force me to listen to. if these people are SO concerned about everyone in the world going to hell for being sinners, shouldn&#039;t they all take a step back and re-evaluate their own actions BEFORE they come knocking down MY door telling me that im doomed to a firey after life? i thought their OWN philosophy was &quot;judge not&quot; and &quot;we are ALL created in the likeness of god&quot; MY god loves me for WHO i am, and NOT what i leave in the collection plate, and he doesn&#039;t judge me for the way i am

NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER BACK DOWN, NEVER SHUT UP, AND NEVER STOP FIGHTING FOR EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought the whole idea behind the founding of america was freedom. its a constitutional fucking RIGHT to freely choose&#8230;where i work, where i live, what i say, what i think,where i go to church&#8230;and i was under the impression (me being american and what not) that i also had a choice in who i love and marry. NONE of this should rightfully even BE up for discussion, much less a voting matter. we should ALL automatically be legally entitled to be married to whomever any of us should choose. i think all of the conservative closed minded assholes in this country need to shut the fuck up and stop worrying about who IM fucking and start worrying about things that are LEGITAMATE issues in this country like poverty and healthcare and so on and so forth&#8230;and another thing im sick and tired of these so called &#8220;christian&#8221; values that people are trying to force me to listen to. if these people are SO concerned about everyone in the world going to hell for being sinners, shouldn&#8217;t they all take a step back and re-evaluate their own actions BEFORE they come knocking down MY door telling me that im doomed to a firey after life? i thought their OWN philosophy was &#8220;judge not&#8221; and &#8220;we are ALL created in the likeness of god&#8221; MY god loves me for WHO i am, and NOT what i leave in the collection plate, and he doesn&#8217;t judge me for the way i am</p>
<p>NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER BACK DOWN, NEVER SHUT UP, AND NEVER STOP FIGHTING FOR EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hollee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hollee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On this anniversary of Stonewall, I ask my gay sisters and brothers to make the commitment to fight. For themselves, for their freedom, for their country ... We will not win our rights by staying quietly in our closets ... We are coming out to fight the lies, the myths, the distortions. We are coming out to tell the truths about gays, for I am tired of the conspiracy of silence, so I&#039;m going to talk about it. And I want you to talk about it. You must come out. Come out to your parents, your relatives.

And the young gay people in the Altoona, Pennsylvanias and the Richmond, Minnesotas who are coming out and hear Anita Bryant in television and her story. The only thing they have to look forward to is hope. And you have to give them hope. Hope for a better world, hope for a better tomorrow, hope for a better place to come to if the pressures at home are too great. Hope that all will be all right. Without hope, not only gays, but the blacks, the seniors, the handicapped, the us&#039;es, the us&#039;es will give up. And if you help elect to the central committee and other offices, more gay people, that gives a green light to all who feel disenfranchised, a green light to move forward. It means hope to a nation that has given up, because if a gay person makes it, the doors are open to everyone.

       -Harvey Milk    1974 &quot;Hope Speech&quot;

It&#039;s ironic to me that Gay Rights Amendments in Florida and California are repeating themselves 35 years later. For every civil and human rights issue, history has shown that we are defeated before we prevail. But we have to have hope, so once fairness and equality is finally achieved - it makes victory so much sweeter. Let&#039;s hope for a brighter future with a President who will at least recognize us and hope that the courts will hear our voices. I am proud and humbled to have been apart of the largest grassroots movement in our states history. But there is more work to be done. Stand strong and let&#039;s continue to tell our stories and educate people about the lies and deception.

See you in Reno Margaret :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this anniversary of Stonewall, I ask my gay sisters and brothers to make the commitment to fight. For themselves, for their freedom, for their country &#8230; We will not win our rights by staying quietly in our closets &#8230; We are coming out to fight the lies, the myths, the distortions. We are coming out to tell the truths about gays, for I am tired of the conspiracy of silence, so I&#8217;m going to talk about it. And I want you to talk about it. You must come out. Come out to your parents, your relatives.</p>
<p>And the young gay people in the Altoona, Pennsylvanias and the Richmond, Minnesotas who are coming out and hear Anita Bryant in television and her story. The only thing they have to look forward to is hope. And you have to give them hope. Hope for a better world, hope for a better tomorrow, hope for a better place to come to if the pressures at home are too great. Hope that all will be all right. Without hope, not only gays, but the blacks, the seniors, the handicapped, the us&#8217;es, the us&#8217;es will give up. And if you help elect to the central committee and other offices, more gay people, that gives a green light to all who feel disenfranchised, a green light to move forward. It means hope to a nation that has given up, because if a gay person makes it, the doors are open to everyone.</p>
<p>       -Harvey Milk    1974 &#8220;Hope Speech&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic to me that Gay Rights Amendments in Florida and California are repeating themselves 35 years later. For every civil and human rights issue, history has shown that we are defeated before we prevail. But we have to have hope, so once fairness and equality is finally achieved &#8211; it makes victory so much sweeter. Let&#8217;s hope for a brighter future with a President who will at least recognize us and hope that the courts will hear our voices. I am proud and humbled to have been apart of the largest grassroots movement in our states history. But there is more work to be done. Stand strong and let&#8217;s continue to tell our stories and educate people about the lies and deception.</p>
<p>See you in Reno Margaret <img src='http://www.margaretcho.com/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that marriage equality is a human rights issue, and you don&#039;t vote on human rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that marriage equality is a human rights issue, and you don&#8217;t vote on human rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Guava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all reality, the sudden shift in California politics is something to be noted.  Although it was a victory on behalf of progressivism in the 20th and 21st century, I am crazy excited about the future of Californian politics.  In the Prop22 issue of 2000, there was a huge gap in support of banning gay marriage.  Tuesday showed a 4% discrepancy between both sides.  If social justice is to occur, these movements will have to continue to attack this shady amendment.  

On the other hand, three cheers for the president-elect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all reality, the sudden shift in California politics is something to be noted.  Although it was a victory on behalf of progressivism in the 20th and 21st century, I am crazy excited about the future of Californian politics.  In the Prop22 issue of 2000, there was a huge gap in support of banning gay marriage.  Tuesday showed a 4% discrepancy between both sides.  If social justice is to occur, these movements will have to continue to attack this shady amendment.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, three cheers for the president-elect.</p>
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		<title>By: Guava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all reality, the sudden shift in California politics is something to be noted.  Although it was a victory on behalf of progressivism in the 20th and 21st century, I am crazy excited about the future of Californian politics.  In the Prop22 issue of 2000, there was a huge gap in support of banning gay marriage.  Tuesday showed a 4% discrepancy between both sides.  If social justice is to occur, these movements will have to continue to attack this shady amendment.  

On the other hand, three cheers for the president-elect.
&quot;And though it seems heaven sent,&quot; I believe we&#039;re ready for a Black president -Tupac&#039;ish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all reality, the sudden shift in California politics is something to be noted.  Although it was a victory on behalf of progressivism in the 20th and 21st century, I am crazy excited about the future of Californian politics.  In the Prop22 issue of 2000, there was a huge gap in support of banning gay marriage.  Tuesday showed a 4% discrepancy between both sides.  If social justice is to occur, these movements will have to continue to attack this shady amendment.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, three cheers for the president-elect.<br />
&#8220;And though it seems heaven sent,&#8221; I believe we&#8217;re ready for a Black president -Tupac&#8217;ish</p>
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