Comments on: Keep your Bullshit out of my Sky http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/ Margaret Cho Official Site Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:16:18 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Sky Lee http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5525 Sky Lee Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:51:15 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5525 I just finished your book "I have chosen to stay and fight" and I wanted to say, "thanks." You represent a part of the LGBT community that isn't that visible, I believe. "I simply do not see the mirror any longer, and I do not rely on the exmaple of someone who came before me as a kind of mental permission slip." I can't wait until the mirror I see is broken. Thanks again, Sky I just finished your book “I have chosen to stay and fight” and I wanted to say, “thanks.”
You represent a part of the LGBT community that isn’t that visible, I believe.

“I simply do not see the mirror any longer, and I do not rely on the exmaple of someone who came before me as a kind of mental permission slip.”

I can’t wait until the mirror I see is broken.

Thanks again,
Sky

]]> By: Sharon McEachern http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5339 Sharon McEachern Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:01:05 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5339 If you don't live in West Hollywood, you don't see messages written in your sky. You only know about it when someone tells you. The same thing applies to California's Nov. 4 ballot. Most folks who don't live in California dont know that at the same time Californians voted to extend the rights of chickens, pregnant pigs and beef raised for veal (Proposition 2) by a landslipe 2-to-1 vote, they also voted to take away rights of gay citizens to marry (Proposition 8). That's a "YES" for chickens and a "NO" for human beings. Many gays voted in favor of the animal rights, making this a sad irony. Do you remember the story of a woman jogging in southern California and was killed by a mountain lion a few years ago? Well, the fund for the slain cougar's orphaned pups received more donations than the fund for the woman's orphaned children. A good article on the controversial propositions can be read on Ethic Soup blog at: http://www.ethicsoup.com/2008/11/controversial-caged-chicken-ban-passed-by-landslide-in-california.html Sharon McEachern If you don’t live in West Hollywood, you don’t see messages written in your sky. You only know about it when someone tells you. The same thing applies to California’s Nov. 4 ballot. Most folks who don’t live in California dont know that at the same time Californians voted to extend the rights of chickens, pregnant pigs and beef raised for veal (Proposition 2) by a landslipe 2-to-1 vote, they also voted to take away rights of gay citizens to marry (Proposition 8). That’s a “YES” for chickens and a “NO” for human beings. Many gays voted in favor of the animal rights, making this a sad irony. Do you remember the story of a woman jogging in southern California and was killed by a mountain lion a few years ago? Well, the fund for the slain cougar’s orphaned pups received more donations than the fund for the woman’s orphaned children. A good article on the controversial propositions can be read on Ethic Soup blog at:

http://www.ethicsoup.com/2008/11/controversial-caged-chicken-ban-passed-by-landslide-in-california.html

Sharon McEachern

]]> By: Queenie http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5334 Queenie Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:49:26 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5334 Check this out: I wrote a post in opposition of Prop 8 on my blog, and guess who bought advertising space on my blog without me knowing!!!!? McCain Palin! I didn't know, of course. And I was sending out my link to friends and collegues and they thought I had a picture of Grampa and his Vice Trophy Bitch on my website! I'm horrified and guess what? My blog has been a ghost town ever since. I lost a lot of readers. Thanks a lot Google! Check this out: I wrote a post in opposition of Prop 8 on my blog, and guess who bought advertising space on my blog without me knowing!!!!? McCain Palin! I didn’t know, of course. And I was sending out my link to friends and collegues and they thought I had a picture of Grampa and his Vice Trophy Bitch on my website!

I’m horrified and guess what? My blog has been a ghost town ever since. I lost a lot of readers. Thanks a lot Google!

]]> By: Smukles http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5331 Smukles Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:29:18 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5331 Here's a question. If gay marriage undermines the sanctity of marriage, what about divorce? I think divorce undermines the sanctity of marriage a lot more than gay marriage. It gives people a way to get out of a commitment that's supposed to be until the end of time, and it happens in half of all straight marriages. Here’s a question. If gay marriage undermines the sanctity of marriage, what about divorce? I think divorce undermines the sanctity of marriage a lot more than gay marriage. It gives people a way to get out of a commitment that’s supposed to be until the end of time, and it happens in half of all straight marriages.

]]> By: Jim http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5327 Jim Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:00:15 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5327 Hey, don't just blame the Mormons, people. A large number of black and elderly voters also voted for Prop. 8. Why don't you reserve some of your ire for them? Hey, don’t just blame the Mormons, people. A large number of black and elderly voters also voted for Prop. 8. Why don’t you reserve some of your ire for them?

]]> By: David http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5325 David Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:32:15 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5325 Wow and to think that Ellen did endorsements for American Express.... Wow and to think that Ellen did endorsements for American Express….

]]> By: The Stumbling Block http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5323 The Stumbling Block Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:55:17 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5323 The link with my name on it here leads to a complaint I had to lodge with my cell phone company, with which I will be terminating service this coming weekend when payment is due. It involves the blocking of gay dating sites from my phone's web browser, when heterosexual dating sites are NOT blocked. Let's give MetroPCS the shit-storm they're begging for! The link with my name on it here leads to a complaint I had to lodge with my cell phone company, with which I will be terminating service this coming weekend when payment is due. It involves the blocking of gay dating sites from my phone’s web browser, when heterosexual dating sites are NOT blocked. Let’s give MetroPCS the shit-storm they’re begging for!

]]> By: Cara Mia http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5322 Cara Mia Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:16:54 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5322 A friend of mine in LA sent me this. I haven't researched it completely to check on the companies, but wanted you to see it. "If you are inter​ested​ in boyco​tting​ busin​esses​ assoc​iated​ with the passi​ng of Prop 8, here is a list.​ This list was passe​d out yeste​rday at the prote​st at the Mormo​n Templ​e.​ Here'​s the text from the flier​:​ The Mormo​n churc​h was the singl​e large​st monet​ary contr​ibuto​r to the "​vote yes on propo​sitio​n 8" campa​ign.​ The Mormo​n churc​h gets its money​ from churc​h-​membe​rs and its busin​ess holdi​ngs.​ The follo​wing is a list of organ​izati​ons that are eithe​r owned​ by the churc​h outri​ght;​ owned​,​ found​ed or run by mormo​ns in execu​tive posit​ions (a porti​on of whose​ salar​y is tithe​d to the churc​h)​;​ or in which​ the churc​h owns a large​ perce​ntage​ of stock​.​ STOP GIVIN​G THESE​ COMPA​NIES YOUR MONEY​!​ Kroge​r foods​ (​Ralph​'​s and Alber​tsons​)​ NPS Pharm​aceut​icals​ Ameri​can Expre​ss NuSki​n Affil​iated​ compu​ter servi​ces Oil State​s Inter​natio​nal AES corp.​ Oakle​y Avist​a corp.​ Price​line.​ com Black​ and Decke​r Phelp​s Dodge​ Corp.​ Caden​ce Desig​n Ryder​ Syste​ms (​Ryder​ truck​s)​ Corvi​s Sky West Airli​nes Centr​al Pacif​ic Bank Swift​ Trans​porta​tion 1-​80O-​Conta​cts Corne​rston​e Realt​y Incom​e Trust​ Inc. Cygnu​s Inc. Tropi​cal Sport​swear​ Diebo​ld Willi​ams Compa​nies Inc. Dell Compu​ter Zions​ Secur​ities​ Corp Dione​x K-​BIG FM radio​ Los Angel​es Downe​y Savin​gs and Loan AgRes​erves​ lnc. (​agric​ultur​e)​ Earth​Shell​ Sunri​der Int'​l.​ Frank​lin Covey​ Latha​m and Watki​ns Hille​nbran​d Indus​tries​ Hunts​man Chemi​cal Headw​aters​ Inc. Bain Capit​al Holly​wood Enter​tainm​ent(​Holly​wood video​)​ Spect​ra Host Marri​ott (​Marri​ott hotel​s and resor​ts)​ Jet Blue lomeg​a Azul JP Realt​y Deloi​tte Touch​e Key Corp.​ Zions​ Secur​ities​ Corp.​ Knigh​t Trans​porta​tion Bonne​ville​ comm.​ K-​Swiss​ lnc. Telef​onica​ Brasi​l La Quint​a Prope​rties​ (t-a Quint​a hotel​s)​ Apx Alarm​ Micre​l Semic​onduc​tor Micro​ Gener​al Merit​ Medic​al Syste​ms Monac​o Coach​ Micro​semi Corp.​ Myria​d Genet​ics Novel​l For furth​er infor​matio​n inclu​ding addit​ional​ compa​nies,​ names​,​ title​s and conta​ct infor​matio​n:​ www. mormo​nstoc​kinde​x.​ com www. famou​smorm​ons.​ net www. mormo​n.​ org/​mormo​n/​mormo​n410.​ html A friend of mine in LA sent me this. I haven’t researched it completely to check on the companies, but wanted you to see it.

“If you are inter​ested​ in boyco​tting​ busin​esses​ assoc​iated​ with the passi​ng of Prop 8, here is a list.​ This list was passe​d out yeste​rday at the prote​st at the Mormo​n Templ​e.​

Here’​s the text from the flier​:​

The Mormo​n churc​h was the singl​e large​st monet​ary contr​ibuto​r to the “​vote yes on propo​sitio​n 8″ campa​ign.​

The Mormo​n churc​h gets its money​ from churc​h-​membe​rs and its busin​ess holdi​ngs.​

The follo​wing is a list of organ​izati​ons that are eithe​r owned​ by the churc​h outri​ght;​ owned​,​ found​ed or run by mormo​ns in execu​tive posit​ions (a porti​on of whose​ salar​y is tithe​d to the churc​h)​;​ or in which​ the churc​h owns a large​ perce​ntage​ of stock​.​

STOP GIVIN​G THESE​ COMPA​NIES YOUR MONEY​!​
Kroge​r foods​ (​Ralph​’​s and Alber​tsons​)​

NPS Pharm​aceut​icals​

Ameri​can Expre​ss
NuSki​n

Affil​iated​ compu​ter servi​ces

Oil State​s Inter​natio​nal

AES corp.​

Oakle​y

Avist​a corp.​

Price​line.​ com

Black​ and Decke​r
Phelp​s Dodge​ Corp.​

Caden​ce Desig​n

Ryder​ Syste​ms (​Ryder​ truck​s)​

Corvi​s

Sky West Airli​nes

Centr​al Pacif​ic Bank

Swift​ Trans​porta​tion

1-​80O-​Conta​cts

Corne​rston​e Realt​y Incom​e Trust​ Inc.

Cygnu​s Inc.

Tropi​cal Sport​swear​

Diebo​ld

Willi​ams Compa​nies Inc.

Dell Compu​ter
Zions​ Secur​ities​ Corp

Dione​x

K-​BIG FM radio​ Los Angel​es

Downe​y Savin​gs and Loan

AgRes​erves​ lnc. (​agric​ultur​e)​

Earth​Shell​

Sunri​der Int’​l.​

Frank​lin Covey​
Latha​m and Watki​ns

Hille​nbran​d Indus​tries​
Hunts​man Chemi​cal

Headw​aters​ Inc.
Bain Capit​al

Holly​wood Enter​tainm​ent(​Holly​wood video​)​

Spect​ra

Host Marri​ott (​Marri​ott hotel​s and resor​ts)​

Jet Blue

lomeg​a

Azul

JP Realt​y
Deloi​tte Touch​e

Key Corp.​

Zions​ Secur​ities​ Corp.​

Knigh​t Trans​porta​tion

Bonne​ville​ comm.​

K-​Swiss​ lnc.

Telef​onica​ Brasi​l

La Quint​a Prope​rties​ (t-a Quint​a hotel​s)​

Apx Alarm​

Micre​l Semic​onduc​tor

Micro​ Gener​al

Merit​ Medic​al Syste​ms

Monac​o Coach​

Micro​semi Corp.​

Myria​d Genet​ics

Novel​l

For furth​er infor​matio​n inclu​ding addit​ional​ compa​nies,​ names​,​ title​s
and conta​ct infor​matio​n:​
www. mormo​nstoc​kinde​x.​ com
www. famou​smorm​ons.​ net
www. mormo​n.​ org/​mormo​n/​mormo​n410.​ html

]]> By: tommy http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5319 tommy Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:25:53 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5319 LIBERTY & JUSTICE for ALL laststraw.us love you MC LIBERTY & JUSTICE for ALL
laststraw.us
love you MC

]]> By: Ash http://www.margaretcho.com/content/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky/comment-page-1/#comment-5316 Ash Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:01:07 +0000 http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/11/07/keep-your-bullshit-out-of-my-sky.html#comment-5316 Time for Prop 9 - Ban Divorce. I am an Australian citizen, not an american citizen. I had no right to vote on Prop 8 and it had no direct legal bearing on my life. I was none the less horribly disappointed to hear that my american gay friends have had their right to marriage in the state of california removed by the passing of this absurd discriminatory referendum decision. When I read about the campaign against gay marriage both directly centered around this Prop 8 vote and more generally around the western world the most frequent argument I seem to hear against gay marriage is that allowing gay people to marry will undermine or somehow devalue families and the institution of marriage. Not only is this argument ridiculous and based on absolutely no logic or evidence but more importantly I think it fails to recognize that the family (in the traditional nuclear sense) and the institution of marriage are already undermined and being devalued by the present attitudes of our western civilization - not by gay people at all - but by breeders who now average an almost 50% divorce rate. This frequent casual discarding of vows intended to be lifelong truly does do damage not just to marriage as an institution and to the value of families in our society but I think more significantly it does enormous damage to children raised by these split up families. I suggest that if californians genuinely care about marriage and family that they pass a 9th Proposition. If your so keen on banning people from their rights and you want to protect traditional values then for heavens sake ban divorce. Time for Prop 9 – Ban Divorce.

I am an Australian citizen, not an american citizen. I had no right to vote on Prop 8 and it had no direct legal bearing on my life. I was none the less horribly disappointed to hear that my american gay friends have had their right to marriage in the state of california removed by the passing of this absurd discriminatory referendum decision.

When I read about the campaign against gay marriage both directly centered around this Prop 8 vote and more generally around the western world the most frequent argument I seem to hear against gay marriage is that allowing gay people to marry will undermine or somehow devalue families and the institution of marriage. Not only is this argument ridiculous and based on absolutely no logic or evidence but more importantly I think it fails to recognize that the family (in the traditional nuclear sense) and the institution of marriage are already undermined and being devalued by the present attitudes of our western civilization – not by gay people at all – but by breeders who now average an almost 50% divorce rate.

This frequent casual discarding of vows intended to be lifelong truly does do damage not just to marriage as an institution and to the value of families in our society but I think more significantly it does enormous damage to children raised by these split up families. I suggest that if californians genuinely care about marriage and family that they pass a 9th Proposition. If your so keen on banning people from their rights and you want to protect traditional values then for heavens sake ban divorce.

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